John SILVER

John SILVER

Male 1856 - UNKNOWN


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  • Name John SILVER 
    Birth 6 Apr 1856  Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 1856 births in the parish of Maryculter, Kincardine
      No 11 SILVER, John. 1856 April sixth at 6.10pm at Burnside, Maryculter, male. Father: Alexander SILVER, farm. Mother: Isobel SILVER maiden name FALCONER. Witness: Alex Silver father, present

    Gender Male 
    Census 1861  Burnside Farm, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    Census 1871  Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 1871 census for Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine:
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      Alexander Silver head married, aged 61, farmer of 150 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 woman born Maryculter, Kincardine
      Isabella Silver wife married, aged 44 years, born Strachan, Kincardine
      Hellen Silver daughter unmarried, aged 18, farmer's daughter Maryculter, Kincardine
      John Silver son, aged 14, farmer's son Maryculter, Kincardine
      Alexander Silver son, aged 12, scholar Maryculter, Kincardine
      Isabella M Silver daughter, aged 10, Maryculter, Kincardine
      James Silver son, aged 7, Maryculter, Kincardine
      Ann Fraser servant, aged 16, domestic servant Fetteresso, Kincardine
      Robert McKilligan servant unmarried, aged 29, Nigg
      William Duncan servant, aged 14, farm servant Glatt? Aberdeenshire

    Census 1881  Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 1881 British Census Dwelling: Crossley Census Place: Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland
      Alexander SILVER M, aged 71 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head occ: Farmer Of 120 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 Girls 1 Boy
      lsabella SILVER M, aged 53 F Strachan, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife
      Hellen SILVER U, aged 28 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur
      John SILVER U, aged 25 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son
      Alexander SILVER U, aged 22 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son
      lsabella SILVER U, aged 20 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur
      John ROBERTSON U, aged 14 M Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Servant
    Census 1891  Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 1891 census for Harvieston:
      John Silver 34, head, born Maryculter
      Isabella F Silver, mother, aged 63, born, Strachan, Kincardineshire
      Alexander Silver, brother, 32 born Maryculter
      Isabella M Silver, sister, 20 born Maryculter
      Helen Stewart 16, servant, born Kinneff

    Census 1901  Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • 1901 census for Civil, Ecclesiastical and School Board District of Parish of Kinneff and Catterline: 59 Harvieston Farm 1 house
      John Silver Head Single 44 Farmer Employer, Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter (dwelling has seven rooms with one or more windows)
      Isabella M Silver Sister Single 40 years Housekeeper. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
      Mary Mackie Servant Single 20 years Farm Servant (Domestic) Worker. Born Kincardineshire, Fetteresso
      John Robie Servant Single 15 years Ploughman Worker Born Kincardineshire, Dunnotar
      60 Harvieston Farm
      Alexander Silver Head Married 47 years Farmer Employer. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
      Ellen J Silver Wife Married 35 years Farmer's Wife Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Alexander Silver Son 6 years Scholar. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      John Silver Son 4 years Scholar Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      James Silver Son 3 years. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Isabella M. Silver, daughter 11 months. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
      Winnie McIntosh Servant Single 16 years General Servant (Domestic) Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
    Death UNKNOWN 
    • Even though he was supposed to have left Scotland and headed to Australia, no death record is yet found for him there. However, there is a 1920 arrival in Perth, Western Australia for a Mr J. Silver whose destination is Toowoomba, Queensland. His brother James was living near Toowoomba at the time. He is found in at least one newspaper report of being in Millmerran with his brother. Descendants of James believe John may have gone to New Zealand. There is a New Zealand death in 1930 for a John Silver aged 75 which potentially fits. However, his parents are not named on the death certificate and his birthplace is given as Glasgow.
      However, there are no other death records anywhere else in the world that potentially fit this John Silver.
      So, the following burial place may be his in Christchurch, New Zealand.
      https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157590373

    Notes 
    • Emigrated to Australia. Best fit for that is a first class passenger entry for a Mr J.Silver who arrived aboard the Orsova in Perth, Western Australia in May 1920 and whose destination was Toowoomba, Queensland. His brother James was at the time living near Toowoomba. The Orsova berthed in Brisbane, Queensland on 21 May 1920. See: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article20409199.
      Also see http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article179037440 for confirmation that a Mr J.Silver arrived in Brisbane.
      We also find the brothers John and James Silver together at a masonic lodge meeting at Millmerran in December 1920. See http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198546618
      There's little doubt that John Silver did join his brother James in Queensland but no record is found of his death in Australia, but other information suggests he may have gone to New Zealand.


      Further information also comes from correspondence from James Murray Silver, who refers to a letter that mentions the Harvieston Silvers: There is an interesting referance in a letter written by Geo. Robertson (b. 1894, a grandson of my aunt Isabella Robertson nee Silver), to our common cousin, James Silver (b. 1890) of Atlanta, as follows:
      "There were other Silver cousins. They were Alex, John, and James and Isabel. These were successful farmers of Haverston (Harvieston) just south of Stonehaven. When Alex died, John came to visit my mother on departure to Australia, probably with his nephew Alex. (nothing more ever heard of them). James was a joiner and went to Australia as also did the third son, James, of Alex (above) who, just about 1919 followed his uncle Jim out to Australia. I hope this is clear. Isa Silver above, you see, had the same name exactly as my mother. She remained single a long time but lately married an old forrester named Duncan of Banchory.
      Now Alex and John after doing well dropped back by, having too successful a time, did, I think, become too fond of a dram. I remember at our grandpa's funeral they arrived at Sunnyside in a coach and horses. And believe me, few farmers at that time (about 1902) posessed such luxuries. I then was 7 or 8 yrs. and had walked 5 miles to Sunnyside. And then walked to the church yard (two miles)-- got so tired walking behind the cortage that I sat down at the side of the road in a ditch -- in fact, went on strike. The Silver coach or carriage drew up beside me and took me aboard. This was my first experience of traveling in state!
      Some of the Silvers 'were nae sma drink' you can see."
      NOTE: The drink reference is rather telling given that Alexander Silver's cause of death was acute alcoholism.

    Person ID I1588  Warren Nunn's family tree
    Last Modified 15 Feb 2019 

    Father Alexander SILVER,   b. 14 Nov 1809, Standing Stones, Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 14 Apr 1882, Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 72 years) 
    Mother Isabella FALCONER,   b. Abt 1828, Strachan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this locationd. 20 May 1893, Harvieston, Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland Find all individuals with events at this location (Age 65 years) 
    Marriage 11 Dec 1851  Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK Find all individuals with events at this location 
    • Maryculter marriages 1851: Silver and Falconer. Alexander Silver in this parish and Isobel Falconer in the parish of Fetterresso were matrimonially contracted on the 28th November 1851 and after proclamation of banns were married on the 11th December 1851 by the Rev John Bowen, in presence of witnesses.
    Family ID F367  Group Sheet  |  Family Chart

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