Elsie REID

Other Events and Attributes:

• _FGRAVE: 207945731
• Residence: 1942-1977, 5 Hunter St, Northcote, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Notes:

Birth:
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/
REID, Elsie, Birth, mother: Elsie Jane GAMMIE
father: Chas Wm Jaffray Reid, at NORTHCOTE, year 1915, ref 24290/1915

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Victoria, Australia, Birth Index, 1837-1917
Name: Elsie Reid Birth Registration Date: 1915 Birth Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Chas Wm Jaffray Reid Mother Maiden Name: Gammie
Reference Number: 24290

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Died:
http://ryersonindex.org/search.php
REID Elsie Death notice 02OCT2006 Death 91 Herald Sun (Melbourne) 04OCT2006
REID Elsie Probate notice 02OCT2006 Death late of Ripplebrook On The Park Nursing Home, Clarinda, formerly of Northcote The Age (Melbourne) 17OCT2006

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Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009
Name: Elsie Reid Death Date: 2 Oct 2006
Death Place: Clarinda Occupation: Pensioner
Grant Date: 27 Nov 2006

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Other Events and Attributes:

• _FGRAVE: 207937950

Notes:

Death by hanging
Melbourne, February 6. Charles William Reid, 45 years, married, of Hunter Street, Northcote, was found hanging in an outhouse at the rear of his home to-day. When examined by a doctor he was found to be dead.
DEATH BY HANGING (1927, February 7). Geelong Advertiser (Vic. : 1859 - 1929), p. 6. Retrieved February 1, 2022, from http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article232298275

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Birth:
Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Charles William Jaffray Reid
Birth Date: Abt 1882 Birth Place: Sandhurst, Sandridge, Victoria
Registration Year: 1882 Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Charles Kelvin Reid Mother: Emily Robinson
Registration Number: 5358

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Died:
Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Charles Wm Jaffray Reid Death Age: 45 Birth Date: abt 1882 Death Date: Abt 1927
Death Place: Melbourne, Victoria Registration Date: 1927 Registration Place: Australia
Father: Chas Kelvin Reid Mother: Emily Robinson
Registration Number: 2442

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Charles married Elsie Jane GAMMIE in 1914 in Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. Elsie (daughter of Ebenezer GAMMIE and Sarah Ann ASHTON) was born in 1889 in Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia; died on 21 May 1977 in Northcote, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _FGRAVE: 207945701
• Residence: 1921-77, 5 Hunter St, Northcote, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Notes:

Birth:
Australia, Birth Index, 1788-1922
Name: Elsie Jane Gammie Birth Date: Abt 1889
Birth Place: Collingwood, Victoria Registration Year: 1889
Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Ebenezer Gammie Mother: Sarah Ann Ashton
Registration Number: 2355

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Died:
https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/
REID, Elsie Jane, Death, mother Annie
ASHTON, father GAMMIE Ebenezer at Collingwood, Northcote, aged 88, year 1977, ref 11535/1977

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Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988
Name: Elsie Jane Reid Death Registration Year: 1977
Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Ebenezer Gammie Mother Maiden Name: Ashton
Reference Number: 11535

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Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Elsie Jane Reid Death Age: 88 Birth Date: abt 1889 Death Date: Abt 1977
Death Place: Northcote, Victoria Registration Date: 1977 Registration Place: Australia
Father: Ebenezer Gammle Mother: Annie Ashton
Registration Number: 11535

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Victoria, Australia, Wills and Probate Records, 1841-2009
Name: Elsie Jane Reid Death Date: 21 May 1977
Death Place: Northcote Occupation: Widow
Grant Date: 18 Jul 1977 Grant: P

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Notes:

Married:
Victoria, Australia, Marriage Index, 1837-1950
Name: Elsie Jane Gammie Gender: Female
Marriage Registration Year: 1914
Marriage Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Spouse: Chas Wm Jaffrey Reid Reference Number: 8407

Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Greengrocer
• _FGRAVE: 207941079
• Residence: 1903-09, 21 Peel St, Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
• Census: 1861, Gardener's Cottage, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1871, Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Emigration: 22 Jun 1888, Melbourne, Australia
• Residence: 1914, 18 Peel St, Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
• Residence: 1919, 5 Hunter St, Northcote, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia
• Residence: 1919, 18 Peel St, Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia

Notes:

There is a 1923 drowning death in Coburg, Melbourne that likely is him.
Following is a report from the newspaper, Argus (Melbourne, Vic. : 1848 - 1957), Tuesday 4 September 1923, page 4
FARMER CRITICISED.
Leaves Body in River.
Having been informed that the body of a man had been seen in the Yarra at Templestowe, John Cox, a farmer, continued milking his cows. He went to look for the body on the following day. His action was strongly criticised by the deputy coroner (Mr. Phillips) at the morgue yesterday, when an inquiry was held into the death of Eben Gammie, aged 67 years, who was found drowned on August 27. Cox said in evidence that he was milking cows at about 5 o'clock on the afternoon of Sunday, August 26, when he was told that there was the body of a man in the river. He told a young man to inform the police, and continued milking his cows. On the following morning he went to the river and found the body of Gammie.
Mr. Phillips. - It is extraordinary that a man hearing of a body in the river does not do something. Probably you were more interested in your cows, and had they been in the river you would have gone.
Continuing, Mr. Phillips said that one would think a man would inform someone else even if he were too busy to take a human being out of the water. It seemed a clear case of suicide. He returned a verdict of "found drowned," there being no evidence to show how Gammie got into the river.
http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article1983111

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There is an Ebenezer Gammie who married Sarah Ann Ashton on London in 1888 and moved to Australia
England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ebenezer Gammie Registration Year: 1888 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Paddington
Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 121
Spouse: Sarah Ann Ashton

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Birth:
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Ebenezer Gammie Gender: Male Birth Date: 21 Jul 1856
Birth Place: Drumoak, Aberdeen, Scotland
Father: George Gammie Mother: Jane Silver

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"Scotland, Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XYTC-7ZK : accessed 31 May 2014), Ebenezer Gammie, 21 Jul 1856; citing DRUMOAK,ABERDEEN,SCOTLAND, reference ; FHL microfilm 6035516.

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Emigration:
Victoria, Australia, Assisted and Unassisted Passenger Lists, 1839-1923
Name: Ebenezer Gammie Nationality: English* Arrival Age: 31 Birth Date: abt 1857 Departure Place: London Arrival Date: 22 Jun 1888 Arrival Place: Adelaide, Melbourne and Sydney, Australia Ship: Austral
Also Annie Gammie, aged 28.
*The only Ebenzer Gammie found in records was born Scotland. He is not found in Scotland after 1871 census, so this information about him being English is questionable.

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Residence:
Australian electoral roll

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Died:
Australia, Death Index, 1787-1985
Name: Eben Gammie Death Age: 66 Birth Date: abt 1857 Death Date: Abt 1923 Death Place: Melbourne, Victoria
Registration Date: 1923 Registration Place: Australia Father: George Gammie Mother: Elsie* Registration Number: 11548
*The only Ebenezer Gammie born around 1857 is found in Scotland, the son of George Gammie and Jane Silver. This may be a case of inaccurate information provided by family members on death records. It's a common situation.

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Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988
Name: Eben Gammie Death Registration Year: 1923 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: George Gammie Reference Number: 11548

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Ebenezer married Sarah Ann ASHTON in Apr 1888 in Paddington, London, England. Sarah was born about 1859 in England; died on 1 Oct 1916 in Collingwood, Melbourne, Victoria, Australia. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• _FGRAVE: 207933745

Notes:

Birth:
Age given as 28 on passenger manifest to Australia in 1888.

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Died:
Victoria, Australia, Death Index, 1836-1988
Name: Annie Gammie Death Registration Year: 1916 Death Registration Place: Victoria, Australia
Father: Ashton Wm
Reference Number: 13902

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Notes:

Married:
England & Wales, Civil Registration Marriage Index, 1837-1915
Name: Ebenezer Gammie Registration Year: 1888 Registration Quarter: Apr-May-Jun Registration District: Paddington Inferred County: London Volume: 1a Page: 121 Spouse: Sarah Ann Ashton

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Other Events and Attributes:

• Occupation: Gardener
• Census: 1861, Gardener's Cottage, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1871, Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1881, Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1891, South Coldstream, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, South Coldstream, Drumoak, Scotland, UK

Notes:

Birth:
Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: George Gammie Gender: Male Age: 0 Birth Date: 24 May 1809 Baptism Date: 29 May 1809 Baptism Place: Marnoch, Banff, Scotland Father: Alexander Gammie Mother: Ann Smith

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Census:
1881 Census for Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Aberdeen, Scotland
(Source: FHL Film 0203454 GRO Ref Volume 189 / EnumDist 1 / Page 13)
George GAMMIE Married / Head / Domestic Gardener 71 Male born : Marnoch, Banff
Jane GAMMIE Married / Gardeners Wife 68 Female born : Maryculter
Annie GAMMIE Unmarried / Gardeners Daughter 29 Female born : Drumoak
Hellen GAMMIE Unmarried / Gardeners Daughter 27 Female born : Drumoak
Jane C GAMMIE Grand Daughter / Scholar 14 Female born : India*
Mary Ann GAMMIE Grand Daughter / Scholar 12 Female born : India*
Louisa GAMMIE Grand Daughter / Scholar 9 Female born : England* (daughters of George's son James who lived in India)

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Census:
1891 Census for South Coldstream, Drumoak
George GAMMIE Married / Head / Gardener (retired) 81 Male born : Marnoch, Banff
Jane GAMMIE Married / Wife 78 Female born : Maryculter
Elsie GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried / Dressmaker 43 Female born : Drumoak
Annie GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried / Dressmaker 39 Female born : Drumoak
Helen GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried 37 Female born : Drumoak

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Census:
1901 Census for South Coldstream Cottage, Drumoak
George GAMMIE Widower / Head / Gardener (retired) 91 Male born : Marnoch, Banff
Jane GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarr / ret housekeeper 64 Female born : Maryculter
Elsie GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried / Dressmaker 53 Female born : Drumoak
Ann GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried / Dressmaker 49 Female born : Drumoak
Helen GAMMIE Daughter / Unmarried / Housekeeper 46 Female born : Drumoak

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Died:
1906 Deaths in the Parish of Drumoak in the County of Aberdeen No 5 George Gammie retired gardener (widower of Jane Silver) 1906 March Sixteenth 9.30pm South Coldstream Cottage Drumoak M 96 years Father: Alexander Gammie farmer (deceased) Mother: Ann Gammie M.S.Smith (deceased)
Cause: Old Age as certified by Rbt Rannie Witness: E.Gammie daughter (present)

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George married Jean SILVER on 21 Nov 1835 in Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK. Jean (daughter of James SILVER and Isobel GORDON) was born on 18 Aug 1812 in Maryculter, Kincardineshire, Scotland, UK; died on 11 Aug 1891 in Drumoak, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, UK; was buried on 14 Aug 1891 in Old Churchyard, Drumoak, Aberdeenshire, Scotland, UK. [Group Sheet] [Family Chart]

Other Events and Attributes:

• Census: 1861, Gardener's Cottage, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1871, Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1881, Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1891, South Coldstream, Drumoak, Scotland, UK
• Census: 1901, South Coldstream, Drumoak, Scotland, UK

Notes:

Birth:
Maryculter OPR
To James Silver Roadside of Blairs and Isabel Gordon a daughter Jean 18/8/1812

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https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XBHN-6RF

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Scotland, Select Births and Baptisms, 1564-1950
Name: Jean Silver Gender: Female Age: 0 Birth Date: 18 Aug 1812 Baptism Date: 26 Aug 1812 Baptism Place: Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Father: James Silver Mother: Isobel Gordon

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Census:
1861 census for Registration district: Drumoak Civil parish: Drumoak
County: Aberdeenshire Address: Gardener's Cottage
ED: 1 Household schedule number: 42 Line: 11 Roll: CSSCT1861_28 Registration Number: 189
Name: Jane Gammie Age: 48 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relationship: Wife
Gender: Female Where born: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
George Gammie 51 Head Name: George Gammie Age: 51 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Marnoch,
John Gammie 15 Son Age: 15 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1846 Relationship: Son Gender: Male Where born: Drumoak, Kincardineshire
Elspet Gammie 13 Daughter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848 Relationship: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Drumoak, Kincardineshire
William Gammie 11 Son Estimated Birth Year: abt 1850 Relationship: Son Gender: Male Where born: Drumoak, Kincardineshire
Ann Gammie 9 Daughter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Relationship: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Drumoak, Kincardineshire
Hellen Gammie 7 Daughter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Relationship: Daughter Gender: Female Where born: Drumoak, Kincardineshire
Name: Ebenezer Gammie Age: 4 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Relationship: Son

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Census:
1871 Scotland Census for Drum Gardens, Drumoak, Scotland,
ED: 1 Household schedule number: 68 Line: 9 Roll: CSSCT1871_37 Registration Number: 189
Name: Jane Gammie Age: 58 Estimated Birth Year: abt 1813 Relationship: Wife Gender: Female Where born: Maryculter, Kincardineshire
George Gammie 61 Head Estimated Birth Year: abt 1810 Relationship: Head Gender: Male Where born: Marnoch, Banffshire
Annie Gammie 19 Daughter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1852 Gender: Female Where born: Drumoak, Aberdeenshire
Helen Gammie 17 Daughter Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854 Gender: Female Where born: Drumoak, Aberdeenshire
Ebenezer Gammie 14 Son Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857 Gender: Male Where born: Drumoak, Aberdeenshire

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Died:
1891 Deaths in the Parish of Drumoak in the County of Aberdeen. No 11. Jane Gammie (married to George Gammie retired gardener). 1891 August Eleventh 3.15am South Colstream, Drumoak, Aberdeenshire. F 79 years. Father: James Silver Crofter (deceased). Mother: Isobel Silver M.S.Gordon (deceased). Cause: (Hemiplegia 2 years (b) Haematesis 2 days as certified by R.Rannie. Witness: George Gammie widower (present)

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Buried:
Aberdeen Free Press 13 August 1891, p4
At South Coldstream, Drumoak, on the 11th inst., Mrs Gammie, aged 79 years - deeply regretted by all who knew her.-Funeral on Friday, the 14th inst., at 2 o'clock p.m., to Old Churchyard of Drumoak.-Friends ommitted kindly invited to attend.

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Notes:

Married:
Scotland, Select Marriages, 1561-1910
Name: George Gammie Gender: Male Marriage Date: 21 Nov 1835 Marriage Place: Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Spouse: Jean Silver

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Maryculter OPR: Jean Silver OTP and George Gammie Stripside Blairs married 21/11/1835

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