Name |
John SILVER |
Birth |
6 Apr 1856 |
Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK |
- 1856 births in the parish of Maryculter, Kincardine
No 11 SILVER, John. 1856 April sixth at 6.10pm at Burnside, Maryculter, male. Father: Alexander SILVER, farm. Mother: Isobel SILVER maiden name FALCONER. Witness: Alex Silver father, present
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Gender |
Male |
Census |
1861 |
Burnside Farm, Kincardine, Scotland, UK |
Census |
1871 |
Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK |
- 1871 census for Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine:
http://tinyurl.com/yejsajv
Alexander Silver head married, aged 61, farmer of 150 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 woman born Maryculter, Kincardine
Isabella Silver wife married, aged 44 years, born Strachan, Kincardine
Hellen Silver daughter unmarried, aged 18, farmer's daughter Maryculter, Kincardine
John Silver son, aged 14, farmer's son Maryculter, Kincardine
Alexander Silver son, aged 12, scholar Maryculter, Kincardine
Isabella M Silver daughter, aged 10, Maryculter, Kincardine
James Silver son, aged 7, Maryculter, Kincardine
Ann Fraser servant, aged 16, domestic servant Fetteresso, Kincardine
Robert McKilligan servant unmarried, aged 29, Nigg
William Duncan servant, aged 14, farm servant Glatt? Aberdeenshire
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Census |
1881 |
Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK |
- 1881 British Census Dwelling: Crossley Census Place: Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland
Alexander SILVER M, aged 71 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Head occ: Farmer Of 120 Acres 80 Arable Employs 2 Men 2 Girls 1 Boy
lsabella SILVER M, aged 53 F Strachan, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Wife
Hellen SILVER U, aged 28 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur
John SILVER U, aged 25 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son
Alexander SILVER U, aged 22 M Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Son
lsabella SILVER U, aged 20 F Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Daur
John ROBERTSON U, aged 14 M Banchory Devenick, Kincardine, Scotland Rel: Servant
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Census |
1891 |
Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Kincardineshire, Scotland, UK |
- 1891 census for Harvieston:
John Silver 34, head, born Maryculter
Isabella F Silver, mother, aged 63, born, Strachan, Kincardineshire
Alexander Silver, brother, 32 born Maryculter
Isabella M Silver, sister, 20 born Maryculter
Helen Stewart 16, servant, born Kinneff
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Census |
1901 |
Harvieston Farm, Kinneff, Scotland, UK |
- 1901 census for Civil, Ecclesiastical and School Board District of Parish of Kinneff and Catterline: 59 Harvieston Farm 1 house
John Silver Head Single 44 Farmer Employer, Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter (dwelling has seven rooms with one or more windows)
Isabella M Silver Sister Single 40 years Housekeeper. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
Mary Mackie Servant Single 20 years Farm Servant (Domestic) Worker. Born Kincardineshire, Fetteresso
John Robie Servant Single 15 years Ploughman Worker Born Kincardineshire, Dunnotar
60 Harvieston Farm
Alexander Silver Head Married 47 years Farmer Employer. Born Kincardineshire, Maryculter
Ellen J Silver Wife Married 35 years Farmer's Wife Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
Alexander Silver Son 6 years Scholar. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
John Silver Son 4 years Scholar Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
James Silver Son 3 years. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
Isabella M. Silver, daughter 11 months. Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
Winnie> McIntosh Servant Single 16 years General Servant (Domestic) Born Kincardineshire, Kinneff
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Death |
UNKNOWN |
- Even though he was supposed to have left Scotland and headed to Australia, no death record is yet found for him there. However, there is a 1920 arrival in Perth, Western Australia for a Mr J. Silver whose destination is Toowoomba, Queensland. His brother James was living near Toowoomba at the time. He is found in at least one newspaper report of being in Millmerran with his brother. Descendants of James believe John may have gone to New Zealand. There is a New Zealand death in 1930 for a John Silver aged 75 which potentially fits. However, his parents are not named on the death certificate and his birthplace is given as Glasgow.
However, there are no other death records anywhere else in the world that potentially fit this John Silver.
So, the following burial place may be his in Christchurch, New Zealand.
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/157590373
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Notes |
- Emigrated to Australia. Best fit for that is a first class passenger entry for a Mr J.Silver who arrived aboard the Orsova in Perth, Western Australia in May 1920 and whose destination was Toowoomba, Queensland. His brother James was at the time living near Toowoomba. The Orsova berthed in Brisbane, Queensland on 21 May 1920. See: http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article20409199.
Also see http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article179037440 for confirmation that a Mr J.Silver arrived in Brisbane.
We also find the brothers John and James Silver together at a masonic lodge meeting at Millmerran in December 1920. See http://nla.gov.au/nla.news-article198546618
There's little doubt that John Silver did join his brother James in Queensland but no record is found of his death in Australia, but other information suggests he may have gone to New Zealand.
Further information also comes from correspondence from James Murray Silver, who refers to a letter that mentions the Harvieston Silvers: There is an interesting referance in a letter written by Geo. Robertson (b. 1894, a grandson of my aunt Isabella Robertson nee Silver), to our common cousin, James Silver (b. 1890) of Atlanta, as follows:
"There were other Silver cousins. They were Alex, John, and James and Isabel. These were successful farmers of Haverston (Harvieston) just south of Stonehaven. When Alex died, John came to visit my mother on departure to Australia, probably with his nephew Alex. (nothing more ever heard of them). James was a joiner and went to Australia as also did the third son, James, of Alex (above) who, just about 1919 followed his uncle Jim out to Australia. I hope this is clear. Isa Silver above, you see, had the same name exactly as my mother. She remained single a long time but lately married an old forrester named Duncan of Banchory.
Now Alex and John after doing well dropped back by, having too successful a time, did, I think, become too fond of a dram. I remember at our grandpa's funeral they arrived at Sunnyside in a coach and horses. And believe me, few farmers at that time (about 1902) posessed such luxuries. I then was 7 or 8 yrs. and had walked 5 miles to Sunnyside. And then walked to the church yard (two miles)-- got so tired walking behind the cortage that I sat down at the side of the road in a ditch -- in fact, went on strike. The Silver coach or carriage drew up beside me and took me aboard. This was my first experience of traveling in state!
Some of the Silvers 'were nae sma drink' you can see."
NOTE: The drink reference is rather telling given that Alexander Silver's cause of death was acute alcoholism.
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Person ID |
I1588 |
Warren Nunn's family tree |
Last Modified |
15 Feb 2019 |
Father |
Alexander SILVER, b. 14 Nov 1809, Standing Stones, Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK d. 14 Apr 1882, Crossley, Fetteresso, Kincardine, Scotland, UK (Age 72 years) |
Mother |
Isabella FALCONER, b. Abt 1828, Strachan, Aberdeenshire, Scotland d. 20 May 1893, Harvieston, Kinneff, Kincardine, Scotland (Age 65 years) |
Marriage |
11 Dec 1851 |
Maryculter, Kincardine, Scotland, UK |
- Maryculter marriages 1851: Silver and Falconer. Alexander Silver in this parish and Isobel Falconer in the parish of Fetterresso were matrimonially contracted on the 28th November 1851 and after proclamation of banns were married on the 11th December 1851 by the Rev John Bowen, in presence of witnesses.
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Family ID |
F367 |
Group Sheet | Family Chart |